I am curious how others are pricing their models? Full color versus white? Are you charging time or have an equation you are using?

~. mary

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Good Grief! Sorry! Of course I mean Pricing.

No! I rice my models too! :smiley:

Hey Mary,

Well, I guess it’s all about what the market will stand, really. Although, you could figure out your cost price per cubic Centimetre, including depreciation of your machine and materials and then decide what margin you want to work to and then figure it out.

Me? I’ve been looking for an Mcor hub for a few months, so I’d be happy to discuss what I can stand in my particular application. What appeals to me is high-resolution colour, smooth texture and relatively low cost, compared to other colour technologies. So, play to those strengths and I’m sure you’ll be close to the right track.

Cheers!

AndyL

Pot8oSh3D

Ha ha ha! As soon as I have the machine consistently working so that I guarantee models I will activate my Mcor hub. I am still having glue failures on intricate pieces. I’ll let you know!

Great! Thanks!

What’s your hub address?

Cheers!

AndyL

Pot8oSh3D

Hi there!

We have an active hub :slight_smile: Just ölet me know, what we shall print for you!

Best, Gunther

Hi Mary,

we have made a nice excel sheet with all the costs we have.

Power, Knife, Glue, labour, and so on.

With Mcor, a price per ccm is not relevant and possible, because of postprocessing time not correlates with the ccm. It correlates with complexity (Knife-traveling???) We are trying to optimise our calculation base, but its difficult. We are mostly relying on comparing the markedprice and our experiance…

So if someone has a automated script, I would love to participate :wink:

Best, Gunther

I have used Protocow to help price models on our FDM machines but the Iris doesn’t quite fit into that structure as well. Would you be willing to share some of your excel work?

As far as pricing what the market can stand, that can be drastically different depending upon where you are geographically located I think. Grow Shapes near San Fransisco’s prices would not do here near Seattle.

I haven’t yet activated it since I cannot yet guarantee the models. I’ll let you know once I’m up and running consistently. It sounds like the folks at Formicum are experienced and knowledgable. You should check them out.

As a matter of interest, how much does an Mcor cost??

Roughly $57K signed, sealed, and delivered. That includes some supplies, software, etc etc. Where are you located? If you are near Seattle I could show you our machine. I am not a reseller. Sometimes it’s better to get the info from users instead of sales.

Hehe thats true, we are reseller, but we try to be honest because its not good to get a sale an than a bad reputation oif something is not working good…

:slight_smile:

Ouch! That hurts!!

It’ll take you a while to print $57K worth of stuff for folks! 0o

I’m near London, England. Would love to come over and admire your machine but, TBH Seattle’s a little off my bus map. :smiley:

Always better to get info from users instead of sales.

TBH, I wouldn’t buy a printer that’s produced by a company that keeps their sale price secret. It just sends the message to me that they want to rip people off.

Just my view.

Cheers!

AndyL

I haven’t seen the machine running, but have done a bit of research and it looks pretty handy, definitely on the wish list!

As far as costing, does the slicer output any information like distance the blade travels per layer? Would correlate with print duration. Maybe even be able to pull data like distance cut and number of layers for a each print run?

If you’ve come up with another solution to the costing, I’d love to hear.

Hi

You get a complete statistics out of the slicer, but you need to calculate the weeding process, which depends on the skill of the person who is freeing the model from the excess-paper. This is the most expensive part in germany, because labour is expensive :wink:

See the pic of the statistics… but unfortunately it is not possile to use this out of the programm atm. So no auto calculation on Websites…

best, Gunther

Interesting! Does the glue stick pretty solidly to the model? Something like a paper jogger (or anything that vibrates, really) might loosen it up a touch? As far as the statistics go, it might be worth having a peak inside one of the saved files from the slicer in a text editor. See if it reveals any plain text gems :slight_smile:

Hi,

the model is like wood. Heavy and solid but you need to make it repell humidity.

Otherwise, we did no check what constant vibrations will do to the models.

But we did do a standard pulling test with a standard 3mm test object, it got ripped apart by 100kg equivalent of force. I guess, if you would have test the glue-binding direction, it woulld be 100g :wink: because the glue binding depends on the surface you have to bind it on… and sheets of paper will seperate at some point because the horicontal layers of pepr are not binding strong together.

The slicer has a java output… so it might have a place, we could grab the statisticts and use it… but you need still to calculate all things and it’s not only ccm, duration or knife distance that counts… If you have an solid organic shape i’ts less hassle to remove the waste-paper than to do this with some small 3mm structures.

We’re try for 2 years now to find a general solution for pricing, but it’s difficult.

Best, Gunther

I think I am going to use a per mm of z height as the main calculation. Then of course extra for color and more detailed models due to the weeding time. Would you mind giving me a ball park price that you charged for the house you printed? I think I am underpricing things and would like to make sure that all us Mcor owners are similar in pricing structure.