From day 1 I’ve had problems with 3dhubs service that only after repeated emails have most, not all, been resolved. I’m wondering what exactly they do that earns them their commission?

1) Their SMS notifications have not worked for me since the beginning back in Aug, 2016. Now, it works only 1/3 of the time.

2) I’m located in Shanghai, and 3dhubs listed me their for a few days, then inexplicably moved me to Beijing. Only after many days of emails did they move me back.

3) Searches for Hubs in China pulled up hubs in the U.S., over 7,000km away (which it showed on the results) - even though there are many hubs in China. This, actually, appears to finally be resolved.

4) None of the cities in China, and many in HK, Korea, Japan, are not listed in the search results. Instead only cryptic letters, dashes and numbers are shown. This has been an issue since October and is still not resolved.

5) Customers are not vetted: I continue to get orders from overseas even though I state specifically that I only service China. There is no setting to specify ‘no international shipping’. I recently received an order to be ‘Picked Up’. The customer was not required by 3dHubs to enter their address (or at least their city/country). Now that the order is completed, the customer tells me they are in Canada. It’s going to be difficult for them to pick it up then. Am I now out all that work and time?

5a) Customers not vetted: I get requests for 3d Scanning service even though that is NOT a service I offer. 3dHubs does not filter these.

6) Infinite Hold Times: There is no MAX hold time for a part to be picked up. AFAIK, 3dhubs expects us vendors to hold a part for pickup FOREVER. There is no timeout for this, like there is for payment after shipping. This is such as obvious hole, why hasn’t it been addressed?

What exactly is 3dHubs doing to warrant their commission?

All I have seen is a faulty web site with little to no customer vetting and poor service.

Hi @LeiShen

Robin from 3D Hubs customer support here. Please allow me to address your issues one by one:

1. We use the same SMS notification system for the entire world and if are only receiving some of the text messages, I’m afraid this is most likely due to the fact that you are located in China.
2. I just double checked an your Hub is correctly listed as the number one in Shanghai, China. My apologies for the fact that it took some time to resolve your issue.
3. Seeing as this issue is already resolved, I’m not sure if I have much to add here.
4. Could you send us screenshots regarding this issue? We were unable reproduce this error I’m afraid. Can I also ask which OS and browser you are using? My gut feeling is that this issue is most likely caused by your language setting.
5. It’s true that we do not check every customer before they send in an order to a Hub. For 99% of the customers, they will find a local solution and I’m afraid that your customer from Canada missed the fact that you are located in China. We will contact you to see if we can compensate you for the work on this order and see how we can prevent this from happening in the future.
5a. 3D scanning is outside of our main focus but we do have the filter that allows customers to only search for Hubs that also offer scanning. It’s possible that you get requests like these, I’m afraid you’ll simply have to reject their request.
6. In some cases, customers forget about an order and do not pick up the part. In these cases we send out an extra e-mail to the customer with a final attempt to reach them. In the meantime, we ask Hubs to put pictures of the order on the order page to prove the order has indeed been printed and then we manually set the order to completed so the Hub is paid out for their work. In this case it’s the customer’s responsibility to pick up the prints or not.

I’m sorry to hear you’ve had a poor experience with 3D Hubs. Please allow me to elaborate on why what we do with the commission we ask on every 3D Hubs order. We continuously work to improve the website’s functionality, add new feature’s and we listen to what both our Hubs and their customers are looking for. We handle all support requests within 1 working day, usually within 4 hours.

We run extensive ad campaigns to bring awareness of local 3D printing options, drawing in new customers for our Hubs. We work on content creation to educate customers on the possibilities of 3D printing through the What Is 3D Printing Page and our new Knowledge Base. We release monthly trend reports, organise 3D printing events and publish our yearly Best Printer Buyers Guide.

We offer a direct quoting system that allows customers to quickly get an impression of how much the printing of their objects will costs in all the different materials and 3D printing technologies available in the world and we maintain both the printer and materials page to be as up to date with the newest developments as possible.

Finally we have an R&D department working on improved printability detection to make the handling of orders easier for Hubs and improve the experience for their customers.

Please let me know if you have any further questions, I’ll be more then happy to address any you might still have.

Best,
Robin - 3D Hubs

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4. Here are screenshots taken by a friend in Overland Park, KS, U.S.A. Note that while Google may be blocked in China, it is not in South Korea nor Taiwan:

I am going to add:

The software is quite complex. It requires maintenance, development, and support. It is constantly updated.

This forum also costs money.

You should expect bugs now and again, this is a global software platform, that serves countries worldwide. There are bound to be some bugs. Just report them.

3dhubs gets back to me usually less than 4 hours.

Finally, if you really want to know where thier value is:

Pay for google ads, do direct sales, market locally. In the end, compare your cost of advertising/marketing to the cost of the commission with 3dhubs. You will find that your advertising costs are higher per order than the sales costs of the commission you give 3dhubs.

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