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I’ve been researching 3D printers for a while now and I THINK I have it narrowed down to one of 3. Can I get input from people that have personal experice with these machines

I have listed them in order of my top 3

  1. Fusion F400 – Its got a good build size, you can use several materials including aftermarket filaments, and it had a good warranty. (It appears to be a very small company though, what happen if they go under?)
  2. Airwolf Axiom 20, things I like are the build size, a long list of materials, and appear to have good customer service
  3. Raise N2 Plus – good build size, good materials, customer service, and seems to have good specs. (Seems to go to be true though for the price)
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Hi @jcamper,

What are you going to use it for? These are all good printers but they are really up priced.

If you need a large printer I would go for https://folgertech.com/products/folger-tech-ft-5-large-scale-3d-printer-kit.

You could add your own insulating walls and you can match the specs of all the 3 printers you listed for 1/10th of the price.

I have personally used the AXIOMe 3D printer and it is quite reliable and can reach the speeds advertised.

I will however call out BS on the Raise N2 Plus’s claim that it can achieve a resolution of 0.01mm with a 0.4mm nozzle.

Realistically you will get a print resolution of max 0.1mm, typically 0.2mm. Rule of thumb is (nozzle diameter/2). Same goes for Fusion 3.

Fusion 3 however, has a E3D nozzle which makes it easier to replace (you can buy it from a third party provider). But if you are worried they may go under, avoid them, as how will you get your parts if they do go under? Unless they are using open source parts, in which case it won’t matter if they go under.

If I had to choose, I would go with the Raise N2 Plus. It has a good price range for the build volume it offers. In addition to that nice touch tablet interface.

However, I would recommend you look in to the Folger Tech FT 5 or other open source 3D printers because in the long run they are more affordable, easily fixable, and there is usually an active community that can help you troubleshoot and improve your printer. But if you are looking for plug-n-play, you will have to pay more and go with the traditional retailers.

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Thank you for your input. I had some sample parts made with the raise + and was very impressed. The print will be used in auto manufacturing plant. I will primarily need it to print abs, nylon, and ninjaflex

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If you have the budget, for a longer term investment you may want to consider the AON-M Industrial 3D printer for $14.9k.

https://aon3d.com/aon-m-industrial-3d-printer/.

Especially if you are going to use it for in an auto manufacturing plant. I have worked with it now for almost 2 years and it’s been a very reliable machine. Great build volume, you can print with 2 nozzles working at the same time (they have something called duplication mode where you can print the same object with both hotends), and it can even print aerospace and specialty materials like ULTEM and PEEK.

The company (AON3D) is a new one but their customer support is great and it’s a bargain for the price they are selling it at right now. Although, they probably will boost their price soon (they are currently underselling compared to other competitors in the industrial FDM 3D printer market).

If you want, I can put you in touch directly with someone on their sales team.

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You can check out my hub to see some of the parts that have been printed on the AON-M. https://www.3dhubs.com/service/mcgill

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I’m not familiar with that machine. I will check it out

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Not alot of info on the machine out there though

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They finished their kickstarter just last year. It’s a relatively new company.

It has been featured recently on 3DPI: https://3dprintingindustry.com/news/affordable-innovation-aon-m-3d-printer-104654/

Did you have any specific questions?

You can also request a sample print from them to test the quality yourself.

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Can it do rubber like materials like ninjaflex and polyflex? Do you have to buy filament from them are do they have a approved list?

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I don’t see why it wouldn’t be able to print with flexible filaments.

I know it prints nylon just fine which is similar in terms of flexibility to flexibles like Ninjaflex and Polyflex.

You can buy filament from any supplier, as long as it’s 1.75mm (diameter).

There are no materials licences or other fees for using different filaments.

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Do they have good customer suppprt? I am new to 3d printing so I will have a learning curve

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Since they are a smaller company, up to now the customer service has been great.

It’s also customized to each client, in the sense that depending on your needs they offer varying solutions.

They are also very accessible through their web based (chat and troubleshooting forum) and phone technical support. It’s actual people from the company who know about the product, it hasn’t been outsourced to some generic customer support hot line.

If you are in the US or Canada, they sometimes in unique cases send their CEO to visit and help you setup the machine and get you familiar with it, which is something I found to be interesting. Especially if you are planning on ordering multiple or if you plan on expanding and buying more in the future.

In terms of the learning curve, using the AON-M it’s not difficult to get started. Once you have it installed (it comes packaged in a huge box, you need to setup the water cooling and finish the calibration process) it’s just a matter of hitting the on button. They have support documentation available to help with all that. I think the biggest learning curve will be using the software Simplify3D but they have extensive learning material (articles, videos, tutorials etc) check it out: Simplify3D Support Resources

I think they also give you a default profile to use on Simplify 3D which you can work off to customize to your specific needs.

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Very interesting

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Considering we are trying to stay $5,000 or less I’m strictly between the Fusion F400 and Raise. I like the Raise but I’m concerned about support. Do they have a support center in the US?