We’ve been waiting for something to freshen-up the atmosphere in our 3D printing jungle for a while now! It has finally happened.

Firstly, *Elephant in the room* this printer is huge – yes it is actually an Elephant in our 3D printing room.

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So once we managed to get some space for it, it really looked great! This felt like a machine that can handle anything.

First things first- we need to put the filament in! This was like the biggest scavenger hunt ever! Having no prior knowledge to the printer it wasn’t entirely obvious where to put the spool, however finding where to put in the filament itself was the true quest!

You see these holes that look like little screws? That’s where you put the filament. It wasn’t so obvious at first….

Moreover on this LeapElephant , the filament is taken for a real road-trip all around the printer until he reaches the extruder. I guess it deserves it right before the relentless meltdown (very thoughtful). When you’re stuffing it into your printer you just pray that it won’t break off somewhere along the way, because you might need to call fireman to get that out.

Also , it took us a while to load the filament , because we found no “move” function. And to top it all off the filament melted inside of one of the tubes…

So for now we’ve got only one extruder working, however we managed to start printing! Hoping that the printing will be much better than the first experiences!

It is very important to note that those are just first experiences of ours! We probably are yet to find solutions to most of those issues! I will make sure to come with some more feedback. If you guys could share yours that’d be great!

P.S. Give me any ideas on what kind of material to mix with the dual extruder! So excited!

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Hi Arnoldas,

i got the Creatr HS myself and love it, even though there are some negative points.

My procedure to load in new filament works as following:

1) unscrew the tube above the extruder

2) push in the filament trough the hole as shown in picture 3

3) pull on the extruder’s spring to feed the filament through the top of the printer (make it peak out a few centimeters)

4) grab the filament that sticks out the top and pull out roughly 50cm (20")

5) feed the filament into the disconnected tube and into the preheated hotend

6) depending on the material you can do “5)” while the printer is preparing for a printjob, that way you don’t risk, that the material melts in the tube.

“5)” is very important when you print with metal composites and PVA (i don’t recommend printing with PVA, because the chance of ruining your hotend is very high).

Make sure to have the latest firmware update, older versions have much problems with keeping the hotend temperature stable, the newest versions have improoved alot.

I preheat with a laptop connected to the printer and using Simplify3d. As I know you can’t preheat to a custom temperature in standalone mode, so the laptop is a musthave.

Allways avoid to have filaments in a heated hotend for longer times as the hotend isn’t all metal and may clogg.

Printing flexible materials like Ninjaflex IS POSSIBLE, but if you don’t do any modification to the printer you’ll have to print at 10mm/s or slower, with this modification I can print 0,1mm layers with a 0,35mm nozzle at 25mm/s (didn’t test faster speeds):

Also make sure, to have the fan shrout below the printhead made out of ABS or other heatresistant materials. Mine deformed to unusablility, because I sometimes print with 0% cooling (had to remove it and print a new one, will try to get one out of Polycarbonate or Tritan).

You can take a look at my hub, to get an overview about all materials, that I’ve printed with so far:

https://www.3dhubs.com/siegen/hubs/marius/

For dual extrusion I would recommend Colofabb’s XT and normal PLA or PLA/PHA. XT doesn’t stick to PLA so you can use one material as a perfect support for the other material.

Remember to dry Nylon before printing with it. As the last tip you should highly avoid printing with brittle PLA.

First of all the thick spools by leapfrog can knot when placing them as intended, so I keep them on a metal rod in front of the printer, this doesn’t happen with the flat and wide spools, which are most common.

The tube, that connects the screw from picture 3 and the extruder has a inner diameter that’s way too large for the 1,75mm filament.

I think the inner diameter is 4mm and due to that I managed to print with PLA, which broke in that tube. Because of the large diameter I couldn’t push out the broken filament, instead i had to remove the tube couplings and fiddle the material out with a larger cable.

Even though it seems like this printer has too much problems to print properly, I still have to say, that the printquality, material variety, speed, buildvolume and failrate (when actually printing) are very good for a printer in that price range.

Lastly you shouldn’t go full speed, especially not for smaller prints, often it’s not about the printers capabilities to print at 300mm/s, but the materials can’t heat up quick enough to be printed at that speed.

I print at max. 100mm/s and for smaller objects 50mm/s (or something inbetween). You sacrifice alot of quality if you go beyond 150mm/s (at least on my printer).

Have fun with this machine, if you invest enough time it’s well worth the cost/time investment and the reliability and quality will impress you.

Good luck,

Marius Breuer

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Hey Marius,

This is absolutely so useful! I think many others should see this as a separate post- It’s much more valuable than what I’ve written :slight_smile: Do you think you could just copy/paste this as a separate thread for the LeapFrog community or should I ?

You’re the true expert!

Hi Arnoldas, Thanks for the compliments. I’m planning to start a YouTube channel in which I cover 3d printing related stuff. As you can guess a review of the Creatr HS will be one topic to get covered. However you can feel free to proceed with my comment as you want. Starting another thread about it seems like a good idea, but this week will be busy for me, so I’d ask you to post that thread. -Marius

Hey Marius,

Perfect! I’ll post it then! Thank you.

And YouTube Channel sounds really great! With the YouTube Embed you can leverage the audience here on talk/3D Hubs as well!

I am sure you’ll get a lot of attention!

Cheers