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yup 21% on the full amount incl options and even shipping. Yes its expensive. Luckily as a business i can deduct it again and get it refunded with the VAT statement to the tax office.

If i sell it or sell products from it i will have to charge the 21% though

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Just noticed this thread. Thanks for your great sharing on 3D Hub. For more information, we welcome everybody to check it out on our website, especially you will find a lot of feedback in our community from the existing users.

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Your printer was already on the boat now. :slight_smile:

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I changed to Air Shipping with Michael, cant wait the extra 6 weeks after all the good stuff i see coming from the printers :wink:

My N2+ Should be shipped end of the month if the hollidays (CNY) didnt delay too much

(prob will add 200-250 to the bill)

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btw @ Edward, we’re already discussing to order an extra N2 to compliment the N2+ already ordered :slight_smile:

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Great to know that. Don’t forget printer backers like you can get 10% discount. Thanks so much for your great involvement in Raise3D community and Kickstarter campaign, especially you are the first to make Raise3D public in 3D Hub.

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Next Aim is to get them to rate the quality of the printer, i am pretty sure it will be a contender for 1st place, especially once the V2 hotend is released. With a bit of luck more 3D hubbers will be enjoying a Raise3D printer soon. (I think regular and pre-orders will ship from March and onward? )

One more Reminder, until Feb 15 they run a 15% discount on their website

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I backed the Raise3D N1, just got it yesterday but there is a major drawback, you have to use their PLA, regular PLA jams in the top of the extruder due to heat creep I guess… so they are going to release a replacement hotend they are calling V2, but it is unclear whether all backers will be getting this replacement for free or if we have to pay for it? If we have to buy it that will be a real disappointment for the backers as it was advertised to work with all filament types, PLA, ABS, PETG, etc, etc.

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The V2 hotend will be priced around 50-80 USD + Shipping
They estimate the shipping date for the first ones is at the end of march.
The exact price is not known yet since they are still tweaking it

There will not be a ‘special’ price for backers, or better said it IS the backer price since they will ship all new ones (pre-orders etc) with a V2

Lots of ppl do manage to use more then the standard PLA with a V1 nozzle but it does require more tweaking, slower speeds less retraction etc. The V2 will solve a lot of these problems (as stated by Raise3D in their tests)

My advice is to buy a V2 when available since its not just easier to use other filaments but also the printing speeds can be upped with the V2 nozzle (doubling it at times!!) while retaining the quality

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Well I think this sucks, they are shipping all new ones with a V2, which we should have gotten in the first place, since this was advertised to print with PLA and it doesn’t, only “special” PLA. and I have dozens of rolls of standard PLA that are useless on this machine.
Huge disappointment, because now I will have to pay $100 - $160 to get my dual extrude machine to the advertised specs, somehow this doesn’t sit right as that makes the Kickstarter deal not look so good compared to just purchasing one now.

Why didn’t they “test” the original V1 before shipping all these units that don’t support standard PLA, they had plenty of time to do their testing before releasing a half-baked version.

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That is one of the risks in a kickstarter, personally i am already happy to have backed the right printer since most of the kickstarter printers are still not delivered. It is not comparable to a webshop where you expect a fully developed product.

Also the kickstarter price is a lot lower then buying a new one with a V2 included right now so yes i understand the frustration but i would still think it a good deal for what they delivered its a rock solid base that is easily to upgrade / mod etc

And (assuming you have posted the same on the raise3d forum and kickstarter) as you can read in their forum there have been good results with all sorts of filaments even with the V1 unmodded extruder. (or with a mod on the feeder, a bigger bearing)

btw after the V2 upgrade they will work on a new feeder system too and ofc you are free to experiment with other extruders etc as long as you do not use anything destructive to mod the system :slight_smile: (no hacksaws, axes, flamethrowers etc)

Most parts are very accessible and removed with a few screws

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Well since it is brand new I certainly wasn’t planning on doing any “modding” immediately just to get it to print plain old PLA.
I could understand if it didn’t support some exotics like flex or something but PLA is the most common basic filament that everyone has and they should have supported that at the very least.
I backed the Craftbot campaign and it printed PLA immediately no problem. I also backed Weistek Speed and it prints PLA just fine. I am also backing The Big Box, the Beast, and ReadyBox and I am assuming those will print PLA right at the start or they will have some pretty unhappy backers.

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Since i am not from Raise3D i’d advice to send them an email , they might be able to help get things running.

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For me the costs are (estimated and kickstarter prices)

$2200 for the N2 Plus

$200 for dual extruder

$104 extra filament

$27 for 2 extra spare nozzles

$750 for AIRshipping it to me (China - netherlands 6-8 days delivery)

Estimated $15 customs

Estimated $689,01 VAT (21% VAT on the above, i will get this back later as we order as a company)

So total about 3970 total investment

(Edited again, camera and filament controller scrapped, airshipping definite price)

scrapped $50 for the optional camera

scrapped $100 filament controller

Added filament and extra spare nozzles

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I’m considering the N2 Plus as my next printer to produce functional items, mainly custom fittings for prosthetics.Is themachine capable of that?I’d be looking at printing with a nylon or carbon fibre material ideally.

Thanks

formwurx

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it should be able to print anything that requires up to about 300 degrees on the extruder and max 110 on the heated bed

Personally i use 3dLac on the heated bed for ABS and print PLA mostly on the buildtak they supply with the printer.

In terms of can it do that depends on what you want to print, they have a good layer distance (0,1 - 0,3 mm or so) but for now only a standard 0,4 mm nozzle (stainless versions are on pre order and other sizes are in the works)

I own a N2 plus dual head and saving up for a 2nd printer which will be a smaller N1 single extruder for the smaller jobs

i personally havent printed in Nylon yet neither carbon (carbon eats the standard brass nozzle for breakfast)

As soon as i get the stainless steel ones i prob will try the metal filled ones or carbon. (Carbon and metal prints will not have a better layer adherence / strength then normal PLA might even be worse)

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N2 Plus totally is able to print this.

Please send me an email and I can share some examples in prosthetic field.

john.yu@raise3d.com

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I have invested about 2,200 just in the kickstarter with shipping in my n2 printer. And then my first week of actual printing which was maybe last week on The Hub I have already made almost a $1,000 in orders taken and more than $500 already paid and awaitkng for delivery. It Has been a learning curve with the idea maker software and then using it on the Hub everybody gives you impossible files that are 11 and a half inches,or files that were really only made for visual rendering .so I bought simplify3d and now I have to tune and start from scratch.spend more time of learning getting the perfect print. but it truly is necessary if you’re going to be getting some crazy Prints that take more than 30 hours. I personally paid $80 for the hot end V2 and $334 shipping and $50 for the camera and $150 for simplified3d I am happy and I wish that I could get the same deal for another printer. Sorry for Miss type I was using voice type on my cell phone for this

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Hello,

I am an authorized reseller of the Raise3D N-Series 3D Printers.

I have in stock the N1-Standard (Single Extruder) and the N1-Dual printers.

I am awaiting arrival of my 2nd wave of N2 and N2 Plus hopefully next week, the 1st wave was so out in 2 days.

These printers are of the latest versions and include the V2 Hot Ends.

Actually, I find idealMaker a much better slicer than Simplified 3D.

With idealMaker you have full control of all functions such as speeds, flow rates, pauses, cooling levels, etc. and it already comes loaded with profiles but you can add your own of course, and ideaMaker will fix you models in a way the NetFabb does, if your model is too large there is a split function so that you can split your model into smaller parts and just print each part separately - how many slicers do that?

idealMaker creates supports and rafts that come off like butter.

There really is no need for Simplified 3D on the Raise3D N-Series, I only use Simplified 3D for my Ultimaker 2 now.

For those of you who are waiting on your Raise3D printers you are all going to be amazed by the print quality and the ease of removal supports using the idealMaker software.

The ideaMaker software gets updated with new enhancements regularly. I suspect that manual support will be coming soon.

These machines without a doubt the best of the best right now, with their 7" touch color display, complete file storage system, 4 USB ports, you can use either USB Stick, SD Card, Ethernet or wi-fi that actually works - so much for Zortrax with is promised but cancelled wi-fi.

These printers have replaced my Zortrax printers as my go to printers.

I still sell the Zortrax M200 but when my customers see how the software works and the printed results from both they usually choose the Raise3D.

They are better designed, built like tanks and are just a much printer better not to mention open sourced, you can use any brand of filaments.

You don’t usually require a raft unless you have many supports on the bottom.

These printers come with a heated build platform with a glass plate with BuildTak, however I prefer using PEI clipped on the glass, just my preference.

I could go on and on but I think you get the drift.

If any Hub would like me to print a free small file just email me your .STL file as an attachment to sales@petermake3d.com and I will print it and mail it to you for free. If you would rather not send me a file but just want a sample then just request a sample print from us.

I will leave any raft, brim or supports on the model so you could remove them yourself.

Cheers,

Peter of PeterMake 3D

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Hey I definitely agree that this is the best FDM printer out there. But I have been using idea maker with the N2 for 7 months now. And they are working on updating it and adding manual support and things like that that are available on simplify3d. But I’m pretty sure that simplify3d has way more settings and I’m kind of confused what you mean that idea maker has more options on it. Some people have better luck with ideamaker because it’s just not complicated. but once you start getting the really hard large prints you will need custom support you’re just not going to print a 12 inch print with a over hang at the top , idea maker will not make a good 12 inch tall support( exaggerated example) at one point I had my printer running 24 hours a day for about a month and Ideamaker just slowing me down. Everybody has their opinion but I’m telling you off of 7 months of heavy use and MANY FAILED prints, Idea maker is not as good as simplified. And you are able to do the settings that you speak of and you are even able to print different parts on the bed with separate infill ,you can even print one part have 15% infill half 50% and infilll and the very top 100% in fill and another part on the same bed can be a completely different infill, or other setting at once. But like I said some people just prefer idea maker. But if you get really hard at finding out why prints are feeling you will find there is always a way to fix it with simplified 3D